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Somehow my ugly mug has killed this thread...
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by Honesty in.
that is, if you are able to without the prospect of facing a three-man kangaroo court appointed by jerhover to keep the congregation clean from apostate influences.. i'll go first: .
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Do antidepressants really work? or placibo?
by boy@crossroads ini've posted on freeminds for over a year now but i rarely post on the medical treatment forum.
i believe i've had depression or some other milder form of depression for many months but i haven't gotten antidepressants for a couple of reasons 1.pride- i feel that taken antidepressants is admittion that i'm weak, 2. fear- i don't have health insurance and i'm afraid of the financial reprocussions of prescriptions and mental healthcare visits.
3. i'm also afraid that by taking the medication it will have no affect (wasted money) or that i will be worse off after taking them than if i had done nothing.. give me some of your thoughts.
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boy,
I don't know your story, but I know many JWs and exJWs suffer from depression, for various reasons. I myself have been on anti-depressants for some time. They are not a placebo, but they are not also a cure-all. I believe depression can have medical causes but a lot of it has to deal with what's going on in your life.
So lets look at your 3 reasons for avoiding them:
1. sign of weakness - this is totally rediculous. Its like telling somebody with a broken leg to walk it off. If you have depression, you need to treat it, either through counseling and/or medications.
2. cost. Okay this is a valid concern. Any kind of health care is costly. Is there any way you can get health insurance? Or find some way to cover the cost?
3. meds won't work or will make you worse. Well both of these are possible, but the good news is there lots of options available. I have heard of some people having difficulties from one med after another, sometimes having to try several until they found one that worked and that did not have side-effects that were as bad or worse than the depression.
Depression is real, it is dangerous, and it makes life suck when life should be enjoyed. And it can be frustrating fighting it, but it can be fought and it can be overcome.
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that is, if you are able to without the prospect of facing a three-man kangaroo court appointed by jerhover to keep the congregation clean from apostate influences.. i'll go first: .
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Ack I uploaded it here, how do I get it into a post????
Is it there? can anybody see it besides me?
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This Past Sunday My Wife Took Me To The Elders- Part 2
by enlightenedcynic inthanks for all of the kind words and advice, i appreciate it greatly and will look to use some of it.
a special thank you to both cal and vitty for their pm's which gave me a different perspective to look from.. so the p.o.
meets with us in one of the back rooms and my wife starts to speak.
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Ok what happened to her "complaints" about the oral sex??? Somehow that didn't get brought up?
It looks like you are in a tough spot IF you want to save your marriage. Like others have pointed out, you will need to go deep undercover, and if you really want your wife to see the light, you will need to work at it very very carefully, maybe over more than a year or two, to bring her around.
But the way she is treating you, invading your privacy, snitching on you to the elders, blatant use of sex to try to control you... you might want to think about Plan B...
I left my marriage because of similar issues, but in our case there weren't kids involved...
I wish you lots of luck, whatever you do....
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(ps. when she scratches your back, tell her you have a headache)
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Was This Already Posted?
by Apostate Kate indid anybody else receive this or know these nutty buddies?
open letter to all jehovahs witnesses.
the watchtower administration will be physically destroyed in 40 days from the date of this letter.
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These guys make Freddie Franz look like an amateur.
I think the Society should do themselves a favor and hire whoever is coming up with this stuff and let them take over the Writing department, they obviously have a flair for it.
And then we can stop moaning about how "dumbed-down" the publications have become.
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jw's panic at kh , when we ask for a bible study
by johnny cip inmy brother decides he want to stop al the local kingdum hell and ask for the new craptower mag, he goes in and asks for the new craptower about a dozen x"s i'm standing at the door and he keeps asking for the new craptower " to worship the god jehoover.
and pray to the foolish and wayward slave.
he comes to the door and invites me in and about 10 wt zombies women are in the lobby.
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johnny, don't take anything I said as a personal slam, I just wonder about some of your methods, but like you said, to each his own. More power to you.
I certainly have no love for the Tower, and there is nothing like ripping into an elder, but I usually save it for the ones that have done something personally to me or mine. I know at least a couple of them that would probably start walking the other way if they saw me coming down the street. :)
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Disturbing news
by fullofdoubtnow ini was watching the news earlier this evening, and there was a very disturbing report about how school kids are goading each other into starting fights in the playground, then filming the fights on their mobile phone.
the film is then uploaded on to an internet fight site, and viewers are invited to rate the fights for level of violence.
the main site is hosted from california, or so the report said, but others are feared to be springing up around the world.
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It sounds like the typical 'sky-is-falling' stories the media love to run during sweeps(May and November). Like the ones a couple years ago about the kids wearing the charm bracelets that indicated they were looking for sex, and what kind. Sure....
One TV station here had an alarming story on the dangers of nerf-gun fights.
And of course, since most parents have zero interaction with their kids these days, they have no idea whether they should believe these stories or not.
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Prince The Pioneer
by Bstndance ini just opened the entertainment section of the la daily news and it had a blurb about prince.
the titled was "prince the pioneer".
it was actually about him receiving some lifetime acheivement award.
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But he does go door-to-door. Prince lives here in the Twin Cities, and a couple years ago there was an item in the paper about some woman in Eden Prairie who got called on one Sunday afternoon by Symbolina, offering the latest issues of the Watchtower and Awake. She was a little surprised, but mostly annoyed since she was trying to watch the Vikes.
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I roomed with a DRUNK BETHEL ELDER at Bethel - My Bethel Story
by What-A-Coincidence inyes folks.
i roomed in a double room with a bethel elder at wallkill.
i would come home late at night and i would hear him cursing up a storm.
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A favorite phrase of mine ever since has been
Back when I was at Bethel...One time, at band camp...
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jw's panic at kh , when we ask for a bible study
by johnny cip inmy brother decides he want to stop al the local kingdum hell and ask for the new craptower mag, he goes in and asks for the new craptower about a dozen x"s i'm standing at the door and he keeps asking for the new craptower " to worship the god jehoover.
and pray to the foolish and wayward slave.
he comes to the door and invites me in and about 10 wt zombies women are in the lobby.
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you go figure out in your mind . what i did ,that was any different , than what jw's do in field service. ? and i'm sure you know what i'm talking about. john
Actually I don't. I don't know of any JW's out in field service that would walk into a church service looking to challenge the minister.
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